How Hidden Shame Creates Havoc In Relationships, Work, Drives Addictions & What To Do To Heal, Mary Interviews Sheila Rubin, LMFT. I am so excited to interview Sheila Rubin this week since healing shame has been such a foundational piece of my healing and transformational journey. In fact you wouldn’t even be on this website or watching my talk show if I hadn’t worked through some major shame issues since I would never have felt safe enough to be as out there and vulnerable as I am today!